In this Podcast episode, Ragan Thomson invites fitness trainer and founder of Bond Fitness, Jenny Schatzle to discuss how self-love, acceptance, and change improved their lives for the best.

Recognizing that you have an issue is the first step to make a change in your life. Once you see and admit you have a problem, you can work on it internally in order to develop your external reality.

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RAGAN: Hello. Hello. Hello everyone. Hi, my name is Ragan Thomson. I’m so happy to have you here today on the podcast. Thank you so much for coming and visiting with me and being on this podcast. Today we’re going to explore the topic of choose change and choose to truly live. We are going to take a deep dive into the topic with our guest, Jenny Schatzle, the creator of the Jenny Schatzle Program, which is now Bond Fitness. Her own unique fitness and nutrition program that is now a global movement, it’s so awesome.

RAGAN: But before we begin, let’s start with some questions for our listeners. What are some of the ego attachments that many are currently facing on the planet which is leading to the denial of change? How does positive thinking really works towards creating beneficial change within someone? Is your slant more to the positive or to the negative in your life?

RAGAN: What are some healing methods and modalities that can create long term lasting positive internal change? What are some of the ways to create true lasting change in your life? What do you feel change in oneself results in? How does the soul benefit from change?

RAGAN: All right. So what I’d love to do now is just move us through a little bit of breath work just to help us get more centered in the space together and just more common our spirits. Just be here and be here right now. The breath is so powerful at doing just that. So I’m just going to move us through a series of five breaths and I’d like us all if you can, and it’s available at this time to close your eyes, if not, that’s all right too. You don’t need to close your eyes. If you can, please do.

RAGAN: So, I’m going to start us on our first breath here in a moment. I am going to count to three. On the first breath, I’d like you to move your breath in through your nose and out through your mouth. On the outbreath, please make a sound. So really let that sound out. And as the breath moves through a series of five, by the fifth breath, I would like for you to really just make a loud kind of outbreath sound, really just let it go. Just letting it all go. Okay.

RAGAN: So we’re going to start with our first breath. One, two and three (deep breath). One, two and three (deep breath). One, two and three (deep breath). One, two and three (deep breath). Your last breath, really let it go. One, two and three (deep breath). Thank you. Just moving in just to a normal, deeper breath right here and just remembering to breathe throughout the entire time at this podcast as much as you possibly can. Thank you so much.

RAGAN: My guest today is Jenny Schatzle. Even at an early age in Minnetonka, Minnesota, Jenny Schatzle was a force of nature. After moving to Santa Barbara, Jenny found her calling as a trainer, but she wasn’t living a healthy life herself. Everyone has toxic anchors weighing them down; food, alcohol, gambling, sex, pain, self-worth, people pleasing, etcetera. These are the elements that keep us from our best selves, is what Jenny says, of her early life as a trainer. Until we realize, forgive and move on, we’re all trapped in someone else’s story.

RAGAN: So after years not living to her fullest potential, she dedicated herself to a new lifestyle, one focused not on the scale or the speed or the energy, but rather focused on building a community that strives to be the best version of themselves and truly love who they are in all areas of their lives. And thus, in 2012, the Jenny Schatzle program was born.

RAGAN: Her unique fitness and nutrition program has earned a committed following and received countless awards and media recognition. Not one to rest on success, Jenny has expanded the local program into a global movement of people looking to harness their passion and commit to themselves. The movement’s approach is, Don’t just change your body, change your life. A statement of empowerment that blends results, positivity and fun.

RAGAN: So without further ado, I’m so excited to be here with Jenny Schatzle. Hi.

JENNY: Hi. Thank you for having me.

RAGAN: Welcome.

JENNY: Thank you. I’m excited to be here.

RAGAN: This is really cool.

JENNY: Very cool. Yes.

RAGAN: I feel very connected to you already. I haven’t really known Jenny before today, which is so fun. I’m meeting here today for the first time. I have researched you a little bit and followed what you’ve been up to. I’m looking into Jenny’s eyes right now and she has a very bright, bright soul and it’s such a pleasure to be with people like this in this world. It’s someone that you can really look into your eyes and just see that positivity and feel your light shine forth. What a blessing for me to be with you today.

JENNY: Ah, I feel exactly the same. You are an incredible energy and I’m excited to be here.

RAGAN: So this is cool. We’re going to be talking about a topic today that I feel like you would be pretty connected to as well based on what I’ve researched and learned about you and heard about you, all the good stuff that I’ve heard. So, we’re talking about choosing change and really choosing to truly live because of change.

RAGAN: I wanted to share with you a little bit about my story because I think we have a lot in common. I want to hear more about your story as well as I want to tell you a little about mine because I think it’s, I feel like the story of our past is not who we are, yet it has shaped us tremendously.

RAGAN: So, in my life I experienced a great deal of… Coming into this world, very bright, very light, very awake. Through competitive sports, after kind of becoming awake, I was in a family that was very driven and go getters and wanted to teach me to give it 110% at everything I did. I took that into a world of perfectionism, world of trying to be the best and winning and competing and becoming great at whatever I could be great at.

RAGAN: In that respect, the conversation I had with myself, with my family really led to me not creating a balance within myself around that, right? I am not in any way in judgment of my family. They did the best they could. That’s nothing of what I’m speaking of, but I feel there was this imbalance inside myself that was created.

RAGAN: I really began to live more with the ego rather than the soul. I started to really let the ego take the forefront. I’d like to dive into that a little bit today because for me, what that led to was this overriding energy of really needing to win at everything, and there was no acceptance of myself unless I was winning.

RAGAN: I really felt that if I wasn’t earning someone’s love or earning someone’s approval, then I was pretty much worthless. That happened over the course of time. It didn’t happen right away. I think that’s an interesting place to head to today with you, a little bit maybe how these choices that we’re making consistently are shaping our lives, and choice by choice by choice around age 15, it led to me more and more going to sleep, losing myself, not knowing who I was anymore.

RAGAN: Then kind of getting very sick, leading into an eating disorder that lasted for quite a few years in this life. So, I’d like to kind of explore that with you because I feel like you have something similar that happened to you in your life.

JENNY: I absolutely do. Yes. And I think… My story is, I’m seven years sober. I have a drinking problem, I’m an alcoholic. I think a lot of my life, you say the perfectionism is just this underlying, that I was never good enough. The sports thing with my father, it was, “Yeah, you’re good at that, but you’d be better at this.” Everything I ever did was never enough.

JENNY: It’s funny because as an adult I would catch myself not doing things that I wasn’t good at, right? Like I only like to do things that I was really good at. So, I was holding myself back in a lot of ways. For me, it was with the underlying of that “I’m not good enough” came that no matter what I did, I never accepted that that was a success or that was great.

JENNY: So, as an adult it was really just, I kept that story going that I just always needed more and because I didn’t accept who I was and what I was doing, nothing was ever good enough. And so, yeah, that’s… I’m losing my thought. Yeah. Nothing was ever good enough. I was dismissing a lot of things in my life.

RAGAN: It’s interesting you were saying how this element of becoming, basically judging yourself is not good enough, it’s a judgment, right? It came from, it started with your family. It started with this idea that, whatever you did wasn’t enough. So, it comes from this idea that we have to do something to receive love. We have to do something to be approved. We have to do something to be liked, to be loved, right?

RAGAN: This whole egoic trap that so many people are living in right now today, and the constant striving to do something rather than internally start to connect with themselves and their internal worth, their internal value, it’s so dismissed. I think that that’s another place I wanted to have with you because I know what I’ve learned about you is you’re all about, to do this work, to become positive, to become accepting of oneself, it’s an inside job.

RAGAN: It’s an internal experience. It’s not an external experience. It’s not about what we’re doing. It’s not about what we’re achieving. It’s not about winning. It’s not about being the best. It is this inside experience, it is this inside job to start to get in touch with who you really are at the core of your being. That isn’t always easy, right? I mean, it’s a process.

RAGAN: I feel like you, just like myself, I work with clients and classes and programs, it seems like just as you do, are aware that it’s a process. We don’t just wake up one day fully healed and the egos transcended and you already know that you’re acceptable. There’s a process to that. I’d like to hear more about how you would address the process of helping someone move into acceptance for themselves.

JENNY: Absolutely. My background is in fitness. I’ve owned a gym for six years, but I have been in the fitness industry for 18 years. What I realized was, you can lose all the weight in the world but if you don’t like who you see in the mirror every day, your life is never gonna change.

Justin: Being in the fitness industry, I had people every day coming to me saying, “If I just lost this last 10 pounds, then I’d be happy. If I just change this, if I just, if my stomach was flatter.”

JENNY: So what I did, as everyone did in the fitness industry, is I gave restrictive diets. I worked them out as hard as they could. What would happen is, yes, they would lose the weight, but they still weren’t happy. To be honest, it wasn’t sustainable. So, I saw this, what I now say is a toxic anchor and is a toxic cycle going on around and around.

JENNY: I wanted to be the change in that. What I realized was, you can’t change other people, it has to start with you. So, I began changing the conversation for myself and it led into changing the conversation for my clients and where I want to go in this world, which is to help people feel good about themselves and to change the conversation about fitness and body image and self worth because it’s not about weight loss goals.

JENNY: The problem I found is, we’re so obsessed with constantly being better and constantly being perfect that even when you are at that goal, you don’t realize it, because it’s not about the weight loss, it’s about the acceptance. And so, that’s where we’re really changing the conversation.

JENNY: I’m a new mom, I have two year old twins. What I’ve also realized is, we want so badly to change the conversation for our own children, our own family members or the younger generation, yet we can’t expect them to do the things that we aren’t doing ourselves. So, if we want to make change, it has to start with us. Just exactly what you do, we have to undo and unlearn the story that we’ve been carrying with us since we were little kids.

JENNY: And that’s really hard for people to hear because a lot of people aren’t living their own truth, they’re living their dad’s story or their mom’s story or the thing that the kid said to them on the playground in fifth grade, and they have created this whole story of not being worthy, not being worthy of love, of success, of money. It was never their story to begin with, and until that changes, those toxic anchors and those toxic cycles are going to continue.

RAGAN: Yeah. It’s powerful what you’re sharing. There’s just such a big contagion on the planet right now of so many adults that are currently looking like adults and maybe they’re 40, 50 years old and inside them is still trapped as a child, a child’s still inside them.

RAGAN: What you’re saying is, basically what I work with so often is the inner child where quiches, I’m constantly working with this child within various, I mean I work with 67 year old sometimes clients as well, and literally they still have a small little girl or boy inside them that still feels unworthy or not valuable.

RAGAN: It came from something really simple like some comments like you’re saying on the playground, or a few messages they receive from their parents of feeling that this whole life has been about that, about this lower energy, this dense energy that is of the ego, of the subconscious that is not who they are and it never got let go of. They’re still living with this pain and this trauma and they think that they are not, and they still are.

RAGAN: Once that starts to move, some of that starts to release whatever modality that you find that works for you to help to heal your inner child, which there’s specific work around that, that I love to do, and there’s other ways to do it as well. But to heal that part of ourselves, parts of ourselves, sometimes there’s multiple parts that are really holding us back from knowing who we are, really actually knowing who we are as a soul. Truly moving forward in this life, doing what we want to be doing, our passion, our purpose.

RAGAN: I’m sure you know how much this work can help someone reawaken to who they really are, to the point where they might look at their life and go, “Wow, I’m doing this thing. I have this job, I’m dating this person and I don’t even know if I’m happy. I don’t even know if this is what I really want.” I cannot tell you how many times they start to work with me and they start to go, “Okay, now that I started working with you for a while, so strange, I don’t even like my job. I don’t even like this hobby I have.” Right?

RAGAN: They’re literally like, “Oh, I like painting. I’m a writer. I know I had no idea I love to sing.” Right. Just this reawakening, and the same with what you’re doing. It sounds like it’s same through the work that you’re doing in the world. There’s this reawakening to oneself, one’s true self, and it’s through this idea of letting go of the past, changing the story.

JENNY: Yeah, absolutely. I really believe that our past is not a life sentence and we think it is. One step is, I think we all have to recognize the story that happened to us. So for me, very quickly it was, I’ve done a lot of this work, that’s what I feel so connected to you. I know exactly what level you’re on and how… Thank you by the way for the work you do in this world, it’s incredible.

RAGAN: Yeah, thank you.

JENNY: So, I’ve been through all this childhood and one thing was, when I was six years old and I was going to my tee ball game and my dad who was an alcoholic showed up and he was too drunk and my mom wouldn’t let him go to the tee ball game. At that moment, as six years old, I witnessed all of this and I started the story that I wasn’t good enough for him to stay sober.

JENNY: So my entire life, that underlying that I’m not good enough came from that story, which in the bigger picture was my father’s story. I had to forgive him for that and I had to give him his story back. Till 37 years old, I was living his story. He wasn’t good enough for his mother. A lot of times we don’t go down the line, we’re so angry at our mother or our father, especially now that I’m a parent.

JENNY: Every parent is doing the best they can with what they know. What we don’t realize is, our parents use the tools that they got from their parents, and it goes so on and so on. When we can step back and look at the bigger picture and say, “Wow, all I ever wanted my entire life was my dad’s attention. It actually wasn’t his fault. He didn’t know how to give that attention because his mother never gave it to him. But the thing that I can do is not pass that on to my children, is not marrying my father.”

JENNY: I married a man that is completely opposite of my father because I did my own work. I got myself right, and then the right person came into my life. That’s how I look at it. So, I think a lot of times we need to just step back and look at the bigger picture and we need to maybe have a little bit more empathy and forgive and start doing our own work. That’s the steps to moving on. And realizing that it wasn’t our story and that we’re allowed to give it back. So, when I gave it back, I got sober and I changed my life and it was the greatest thing I’ve ever done.

RAGAN: That’s amazing.

JENNY: Yeah. Thanks.

RAGAN: It’s amazing.

JENNY: Thank you.

RAGAN: Congratulations.

JENNY: Thank you.

RAGAN: That’s awesome.

JENNY: It’s taken a lot of work and I continue to do the work. I think it’s the same reason we’re both in this work as coaches and teachers. Is because we’re going through it ourselves, and that is my biggest thing in this, especially if you follow me on social media, my platform, is authentic, is real. I am not the person that is editing things and playing by the book. I talk about the things that you’re not supposed to talk about.

JENNY: And that’s a huge platform for me because I don’t want to live a perfect life that’s perfect pictures and edited perfect and makes everything look great because that’s not reality. I want to connect with people and make people feel valid, but also not to a point where we sit in it, that we validate one another and then we get to move forward. We get to evolve, we get to transform because that’s what you’re allowed to do.

RAGAN: Thank you so much. Yeah. I want to go back to what you were saying too around taking off the finger of other people and stop pointing and shaming and blaming and thinking that that’s going to somehow make you feel better or help you move forward or create change in your life in any way because it’s not, right? My specialty of course is to continue to see those as traps that were laid once again by the ego, which we all have until we don’t. Until we don’t, we all have one of those.

RAGAN: So, this powerful journey of turning within and recognizing that we hold the key inside of us to stop doing that. It’s not going to become from one day your parent or your friend or your beloved that it didn’t work out with saying to you, “I’m so sorry. I’m so sorry I did this to you.” Like they’re waiting for that day, right?

RAGAN: It’s finally going to be that day that they get that one person or that thing to happen where now I can finally forgive. It just doesn’t work like that.You could be waiting your whole life and even when you finally have that moment or that experience, it doesn’t do what you hoped it would do. It doesn’t relieve the situation, doesn’t make the pain go away.

RAGAN: So, we get to, I think, choose to change and we get to choose to change layer by layer, recognizing what’s within us that’s still inside of us that is causing us pain and being really brave with that journey, and knowing that when I say that it’s a process, as I said earlier, that as I feel you’re saying, it can take some time. It takes some effort. It can take some energy to do so. And it certainly takes courage.

RAGAN: And with all that being said, moving into a program that works for you, for instance, Jenny Schatzle program, right? You can make that change. You can move into first off saying, “I do have a problem, or I do have issues, or I do have pain, or I do have suffering that’s going on.” Just saying that out loud, right? It’s the first step. You really cannot change something that you cannot see.

JENNY: Or that you won’t admit.

RAGAN: That’s right.

JENNY: Yeah, I love when you said, the day my life changed was when I finally said I’m an alcoholic. The most beautiful thing was, I have a business partner and the day I said to him, “I’m an alcoholic,” he looked at me and said, “Finally, now we can move forward.” There was no guilt. There was no judgment. There was no shame. It was, okay, now we get to move forward. And literally from that day on we’ve moved forward.

JENNY: A lot of things, first of all, I’m a huge advocate of therapy. I think it’s one of the greatest gifts anyone can give themselves, or working with a spiritual teacher like yourself. A beautiful thing is my mom who is now 70, and I’m from Minnesota, we’re like very Midwest Values. Therapy was, oh, I’m not crazy or I don’t need; we have those kind of taboo things on therapy.

JENNY: Finally I got my mom into therapy and at 70 something years old, she just texted me a couple weeks ago and said, “I can’t believe it took me this long. Therapy is the greatest thing I’ve ever done.” It is about doing this work and in today’s society we’re all looking for a quick fix, and we all know the quick fix doesn’t work.

JENNY: I mean, let’s take it to, my whole thing is changing the conversation on body image, self worth and fitness. The first thing is, I use fitness as therapy. Fitness movement changes your energy, your mind, your attitude. When you take away the, I need to, I have to go work out. When you task yourself something, you take the joy out of it.

JENNY: So, if everyday you wake up and say, “I have to go work out, I have to run three miles, I have to burn this many calories, I have to do 60 minutes.” And instead you change that into, Oh my gosh, first of all, I get to move today. There are a lot of people who can’t. I have the opportunity to move today. I know that if I even go for a 10 minute walk, I’m going to feel better.

JENNY: I have on my Instagram, every Monday I do these five minute movements because when I had kids, I realized I own a gym, and I can’t make it to the gym all the time. What I realized was, doing even five minutes of movement got me in a different attitude and a different mind frame. So, I really promote that any movement is good movement, and that stop using movement as a weight loss tool, that’s a bonus. That if you really want to change your body, you have to start changing your movement by being more accepting of the fact that you are able to move.

JENNY: And the other things of self awareness. We’ve got to be nicer to ourselves. We’re our own worst enemy, and it comes from the story of not being good enough. Trying to do everything perfect, trying to be the best at everything. So many of us are saying, especially after having kids, or just as women as we get older, “Oh well, I used to weigh this much. Well, I used to be this fast. Well, I used to do that.”

JENNY: Or thinking, well, by this time I should have been here or I should look like this. I should make this amount of money. We’re thinking so much of who we used to be or who we think we should be that we’re literally missing out on our lives right now. When you can accept where you are every day, that’s when you’re living your life. But we’re letting it pass us by because of the expectations of who we think we should be or who we think we used to be that we need to be there again.

RAGAN: The expression stop ‘s****ing’ all over yourself.

JENNY: Oh my gosh. Right. Yes.

RAGAN: Stop ‘s****ing’ all of yourself, and then also the idea of the have tos, need to, shoulds, consistent way of thinking and being, this is such a huge contagion on the planet. The way people are thinking; I have to, I need to, I should, I got to, I suppose to. It’s exhausting, is what it is.

JENNY: It’s exhausting. I think another element of it is social media. We just get sucked into this social media hole, where if you put your phone down and maybe go move for five minutes, instead of comparing yourself, I tell everybody this, if you own a business and you’re constantly watching other people’s businesses, it’s not going to make your business better.

JENNY: If you’re constantly following people that make you feel insecure about your body or how you’re raising your kids or your marriage, you need to unfollow them. We have this power to be surrounded by positivity yet a lot of times we choose to do the things that don’t make us feel good, like sitting on social media for an hour, where we could have done a lot of other things in that hour.

JENNY: So, my biggest thing is, you should follow… I mean social media isn’t going anywhere, so if you are engaged in it, follow the people that make you want to evolve, that make you want to be better, that make you want to do better instead of the people that make you second guess who you are.

RAGAN: Yeah, that’s powerful. Yeah, there is definitely a lot of wonderful, positive, cool outlets on the planet and I do 100% love to move. You’re talking to a mind, body, spirit, wellness kind of girl. I feel that movement in my life has been profound. It’s just so important to me.

RAGAN: It has changed and it’s evolved over time. As I told you, I came from athletic sports world and then that moved into yoga and plottings, and fun classes. Now I’m kind of in a place where, and I think I’m getting this from you too, it’s this place of just like checking in with yourself each day and seeing where’s your energy at?

RAGAN: And just do some movement, whatever it may be. Just move your body. It doesn’t have to be for hours every day either. For me, I just love how far I’ve come. I’m really proud of myself because it used to be so restricted, it was like “oh, today I will work out for two hours and I’ve got to burn this many calories, and I don’t know, I’m going to check the scale”.

RAGAN: I haven’t seen the scale. For me, I haven’t looked at the scale for years. Yeah, it’s beautiful. Some will say, “Well, how much do you weigh?” I’m like, “I have no idea.” It’s so liberating because I really don’t care. I know that that scale is such that the number has actually become for so many how much they value themselves through that number, right?

RAGAN: Gosh, I feel like it’s so important, and I think that hopefully our listeners are hearing us today, which is that you’re not saying, I’m not saying we need to be pro athletes or even do a three hour class or a one hour class, just do something with your body, move it, get it going, get your adrenaline going, get your heart rate moving, right? Feel the impact of that in your life. Feel how that really gives you that beautiful boost in endorphins.

RAGAN: I do have a story. I have a couple who came in my life that I have really turned away from exercise completely that absolutely love it. And it’s because of what we’re talking about. Every time I inspire because I know that if you, to this world, as you know, you cannot tell someone what to do and say go do it. Unless they choose to do it, they’re doing it, right?

RAGAN: People don’t like to be told what to do. So I just do my best to inspire and in couple of times I’ve gotten these individuals to get back up there and do a little exercise and then they lit up like a Christmas tree. It’s just amazing to watch the difference in their energy, their aura, their excitement for life. Just overall, just wanting to live.

RAGAN: I can just see them change and it’s interesting. It’s interesting watching that happen and then they see it, I see it. And then it’s still maybe not quite up back on the horse to do the full exercise, ritual, a few times a week. So there’s this process again of watching someone to, I guess I’m saying this out loud to everyone, so someone maybe who’s out there listening has kind of fallen away because of what we’re talking about.

RAGAN: They just kind of get burnt out or lose their interest or start to compare themselves to others. No, I need to do it this way. I should do it this way. Maybe I’m too many pounds overweight, it’s gonna be hard to get back up on the horse. Just get started. Just get started again.

JENNY: Absolutely. I really am talking about changing the conversation, because I can talk about all these things because I used to be this person. I used to get up every morning and weigh myself and I was either going to have a good day or two hours in the gym, depending on how much I weighed.

JENNY: I was obsessed. Food obsessed. Constantly on every… And of course diets always start on Monday, right? Every Monday starting the new fad diet. I mean, anything that’s out there, I have done it. What I really believe is any kind of restriction leads to bingeing, period.

JENNY: Any kind of restriction is not sustainable. That’s not a life change. You can tell me all day long that now not eating carbs is your way of life. I don’t believe that’s sustainable. I don’t believe you’re never going to eat a piece of bread for the rest of your life. And I don’t believe that that’s a way to live also.

JENNY: No judgment, I believe to each their own, you got to do what makes you feel good, but that’s exactly it. Why aren’t we doing more things that make us feel good? I used to be this person who had to work out 60 minutes a day, this amount of calories, and my body started to break down. It wasn’t sustainable. Especially now with kids, I don’t have 60 minutes. In some days I have 10 minutes.

JENNY: What I’ve really found is that movement equals joy for me. And so, that’s when it’s a positive thing. But also with the, like you were saying, the comparison, we talked about this earlier, we would never put a child on a scale and say, “Now I’m going to determine your worth. So by the number on the scale, I’m going to tell you if you’re successful, if you’re beautiful and if you’re worthy.”

JENNY: We would never do that to a child. Yet as women, we will do that to ourselves every single morning. We’re taking our own power away. We are giving power to a number on a machine. That machine cannot tell us how kind we are, what a great person we are, what a great friend, a great mother, how compassionate, how much empathy we have, how hard we work.

JENNY: That we are allowing our power to be taken away from us. That is why I’m so adamant about these acceptance goals, and like you said, this doesn’t happen overnight. We have to unlearn and re-train ourselves, especially things that are constantly being bombarded. I mean, think about how women bond. We actually bond over the things we dislike about our bodies, right? Have you ever been in a conversation with a woman?

JENNY: Oh, I know I’ve put on so much weight. Oh, have you seen my thighs? Oh, I know… We are the powerful beings on the planet. How dare we sit around disrespecting ourselves to each other and heightening that level of what’s wrong with us? We should be sitting around saying how beautiful we are, how strong we are. We literally create humans. We are the strongest humans on the planet.

JENNY: My whole changing the conversation is, I do not have the same body I did when I was 25 and that’s okay. I created two humans inside of me. I am strong, I am powerful, I am fit, I am healthy, I am happy. Those are the things that I tell myself to start my day, not the number on the scale.

JENNY: So, when we can try to start to change that conversation, and the thing is, these thoughts are going to come up. It is impossible for someone to be a 100% 100% of the time. You’re going to have negative thoughts. So how do you deal with that? Well, the biggest thing is, it’s up to you whether you give those negative thoughts life and power.

JENNY: So when those negative thoughts come up, what do they do? Like, Oh Jenny, there’s some cellulite. Oh, you need to lose this weight, or you’re not doing as much. You’re not being as much. I stop and I say, “Not today.” And then I move forward.

RAGAN: Awesome. Yeah, I am super excited about what we’re saying because in reference to the thinking, the power of the mind, it is this human computer that is consistently storing information, right? And some of it, and it does not know what it storing. It’s just storing whatever. We do have the power to say yes or no to what we decide to store.

RAGAN: I like what you’re saying in respect of, it really doesn’t have to be that challenging and hard to decide what we decide to store in our mind. We are the masters of our mind if we choose. Our mind is not to be the master of us. It’s just a really great positive reminder to everyone out there that when those thoughts come in, right? You can absolutely say, “Not today. No, thank you.” And change what you’re thinking.

RAGAN: Change. So, it gets back into this topic that we moved into today, which is choosing to change. And I think that change is not only, it’s internal I guess. And the internal change within ourselves in that way of thinking and the way we’re being with ourselves and how we’re talking to ourselves and what we’re choosing to put inside of our mind, which for me, Gosh, I’ve stopped watching scary movies.

RAGAN: I’ve stopped watching… I’m really not a fan of social media, although I am grateful to social media. Thank you so much and I don’t spend any time on it. Thank you Justin, for all my team that does. So, it’s what we decide to store, and what we decide to believe in. I am also a firm believer in having these positive, uplifting beliefs that are stored within ourselves, right? It really is up to us what we decide to bring in and to let become our way of life, our way of thinking.

RAGAN: When it comes to the idea of change, from that internal change creates our external reality, right? It’s our internal creates our external reality. And so, if someone wants to change their body and they want to change their life, I can not tell you. As you can feel, and I can feel and we can all feel here today, it’s all about what’s going on inside of us.

RAGAN: It’s all about that internal environment you’ve got going on. That being said, it’s really not this intense like, how do I do this? Who’s going to help me? Who’s the next person who’s going to help me do this? It’s you, it’s us, it’s ourselves, right?

RAGAN: I love that because it’s so empowering. It’s not outside of you. And yes, thank goodness for great teachers and therapy and programs and workshops and classes; all of these wonderful things to guide you, to inspire you, to get you excited about it. At the end of the day though, we choose, right? I get to choose. You get to choose Jenny.

RAGAN: We get to say, “Okay, yes, I’m ready for this. I don’t want to suffer anymore. I don’t want to not love myself or like myself. And it has nothing to do with the scale, has nothing to do with this number on the scale. It has everything to do with what I feel about myself. How much I like myself, how much I love myself, how much I care about myself.”

RAGAN: It’s just so often I know that everyone’s trying to see like, okay, so that person loves me. That person likes me. Oh, I’ve got all these friends. Oh, now I’m lovable. Now I’m likable. And everything you say, it’s something I say to a lot of my clients. You come in here alone and you leave alone, and the only thing you take with you when you transition out of this life into the next part of your journey is the growth, is the learning. That’s it.

RAGAN: What you came here, what your lessons were, how much you learned them. A lot of us, I’ve learned, and this is myself included, my clients included across the board, most all of them as a soul have come in with the lesson to learn, to love and accept themselves unconditionally, without conditions. Not about whatever; how much money you make, how good you look, how pretty you are, how successful you become.

RAGAN: These are perks to that experience. If you feel like you like yourself, you’re a pretty, you did a good job taking care of your body and you’re fit, great. But the most important thing is how much did you truly love and accept yourself without those conditions.

JENNY: I think a good way to sum that up is, everyone out there if you’re listening, choose you.

RAGAN: Yes. I love that. Choose you. Yeah, I’m really happy I got to be here with you today, Jenny. This has been super awesome.

JENNY: Thank you. You’re fabulous.

RAGAN: You are as well. I was looking forward to this today.

JENNY: We did something great. Thank you so much.

RAGAN: And thank you to everyone for joining us, all the listeners. This has been a true privilege and a blessing once again to do this podcast and to serve you in this way. So Jenny, do you have anything you would like to tell our listeners that you have coming up?

JENNY: Well, I would love for everyone to follow me on social media. It’s just Jenny Schatzle on Instagram and Facebook. I am in the process of writing a book.

JENNY: Yes. And then for all our Santa Barbara people, I would invite you to come and take a class at Bond Fitness. It’s a very positive, encouraging all level, no judgment. We help people feel good about themselves and my coworkers are incredible. I have a team that is just, I couldn’t do any of this, we all work so hard together. So, I really want to invite everybody to come experience that and meet my team members because they’re the best.

RAGAN: What kind of classes do you have going on?

JENNY: I love that. So it’s circuit training, but it’s circuit training on all levels. So we have everything from spin bikes to TRX to rowers, and literally it’s all levels. We have from walkers to runners. It’s nothing but a high five and great job. Again, we’re all there just to feel good about ourselves and it is truly the most positive community I’ve ever been a part of. So I’m super grateful and I would love for everyone to come in and meet my team and the coworkers because they are incredible.

RAGAN: Cool. Thank you.

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RAGAN: Wow, that was such a great experience today with Jenny. She has such a beautiful energy. I really loved being with her. Looking into her eyes truly was a gift. She has a bright, bright light coming out of them. So thank you so much for joining me with Jenny today.

RAGAN: And so, now that we’re wrapping up this podcast today, I would love to move this into a closing prayer together. So if you would, if it’s possible, I would encourage you to take a seat. If you cannot sit down, that is totally fine. If you’re moving, absolutely okay.

RAGAN: If you are seated, closing your eyes, placing your hands with your heart would be wonderful. Again, if you’re not seated, that’s fine too. All right, so we’re going to start by taking a couple of deep breaths. Moving the breath in through your nose, out through your mouth. Once more. Good. Moving into prayer together.

RAGAN: So I thank you, I thank you, I thank you so very much. Mother, Father God, Goddess for this beautiful divine blessed day. This time right now in this space and place, this present moment that’s happening. For in this moment right now, it is true that this is the best, the most beautiful moment there ever was, for it is the moment that we’re all living in and breathing in. There could be no better moment than that.

RAGAN: I’m so grateful for this day, this bright experience that just happened with my guest today, Jenny. I’m so grateful for the energy that came forward, the light that came forward, the messages that came forward of truth and consciousness that is here to help all of us, to awaken to who we truly are, to begin to live our life from a place of truly loving and accepting ourselves unconditionally, without conditions. Just loving ourselves just as we are, as a unique and divine expressions of God that we truly are.

RAGAN: We already are worthy. We already are successful. We already are enough. We were born this way. Nothing has ever changed and there’s literally nothing that you’ve ever done, nothing that I’ve ever done that is ever changed this. As unique divine expressions of God, we have limitless potential, limitless power, limitless possibility available to us at all times. There is no lack. There is no limitation.

RAGAN: It is true that sometimes we feel this way. Sometimes we might feel this way, less than or not enough. These are judgements, and it is true right now we have the ability to let them go, to fully forgive ourselves completely, totally and immediately.

RAGAN: So I ask you Mother, Father God, Goddess, help us all to move into a greater experience in this lifetime of fully letting go of anything and everything that does not serve us, to fully forgive ourselves for anything and everything that we think that we have done that was wrong or bad, that has somehow tainted our being.

RAGAN: This is not true. This is not true. This has never happened for any one of us. We are as we are, beautiful and divine. There’s nothing wrong with any one of us. We get to choose day by day our life and what we want to look like. There’s nothing stopping us from having the life and the relationships of our greatest dreams.

RAGAN: If there is anything that’s standing in the way of you, any kind of internal obstacles, any blocks of any kind, any kind of fears, doubts, worries, and securities, judgments, limiting energies of any kind, needy energy, irrational beliefs, anything at all that is ready to be removed from your body, from my body, let it be moved right now.

RAGAN: Thank you so much. Thank you so much for this assistance dear Mother, Father God, Goddess. With this clearing that is happening right now, I am grateful. And with these words I say, and so it is. Take a deep breath. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Have a beautiful rest of your day. Blessings.